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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 6/27/2023 1:01 PM
tulpa stuff is basically kind of like molding intrusive thoughts and letting them grow into a separate feeling thing
1:01 PM
well i dont know if intrusive is the right word since they are wanted in this case
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A long kiss goodnight 6/27/2023 1:01 PM
I would like clarification if these "intrusive thoughts" are walk-ins or if they're thoughts like "I hate myself"
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What are walk- ins?
1:02 PM
Like not bad ones?
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A long kiss goodnight
I don't think it's a good idea to do force upon yourself something you don't want to do. There are solutions to these kinds of problems. It also sounds like there is a medical issue at play from what you shared earlier. If you have intrusive thoughts you can't stop that are constantly bothering you, there's not much we can do to help and practicing tulpamancy may agitate the problem
It’s okay I want to do it just a bit conflicting
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A long kiss goodnight 6/27/2023 1:05 PM
"Walk-ins" are thoughtforms that seem tulpa-like that are created instantly. What people often misunderstand is you still have the choice to accept them as tulpas or not
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I guess like one feels like a girl and is nice/very caretaker like but it’s not like a full personality
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A long kiss goodnight 6/27/2023 1:08 PM
Sure
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So is that a walk in?
1:11 PM
Can walk ins be when there’s a strong feeling of someone but they don’t speak? Or what would that be
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A long kiss goodnight 6/27/2023 1:12 PM
Usually walk-ins are a bit more than that, but yes, it can be Do you want to accept this thoughtform?
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Well they are they have had a personality for ages a few have just been like made up characters just chillin in my head as ideas for ages but nothing happened with them but yeh idk I want to make a knew one it’s slowly forming i think as an introject the more I learn about the person
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A long kiss goodnight 6/27/2023 1:20 PM
It doesn't matter how old they are, you still have the choice to accept them or not Keep in mind if you don't want a tulpa, you don't have to abandon them. They could just be a piece of you and you can accept it back
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I have kinda fused (is that the right word?) with a couple when I was trying to get rid of them
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A long kiss goodnight 6/27/2023 1:24 PM
Sure
1:29 PM
If you don't want the "caretaker" thoughtform you can do the same thing
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Wait do what?
1:38 PM
Like just ignore it
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1:39 PM
Oh or make it a part of me?
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A long kiss goodnight 6/27/2023 1:56 PM
Reaccept them as a part of you
1:56 PM
The caretaker either has traits you already have or your desires, you just have to look
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TiCtAc(✧×✧) BOT 6/27/2023 2:18 PM
*let-ins
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A long kiss goodnight 6/27/2023 4:48 PM
In response to the emoji reactions: You can tell someone to ignore walk-ins and that is fine, but sometimes it doesn't work. Integration is another way to resolve walk-ins, and in this case, it seems that may be the effective strategy for Jay Granted, you shouldn't integrate flat out intrusive thoughts that are self-depracating in nature, but given this instance that's not what's going on
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/27/2023 11:44 PM
Re: #lounge An NPC would essentially just be a character. That's as easy as imaginign what you want them to be like, how they act, and placing them in your wonderland while also being aware that they are not sentient and exist for the purpose of making a fictional area appear more lifelike.
11:44 PM
i can do that
11:45 PM
thx
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There's really not a trick to wonderland NPCs, it's simply using your imagination and expectations
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The "trick" usually comes in how to prevent them from becoming tulpas, lol
11:46 PM
Which is roughly as simple as "Don't think of them as actual independent entities in the mind, only imagination", more or less
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I personally think that not giving them greater awareness of the world/mind outside of the wonderland is very helpful
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ive done that before
11:46 PM
im not saying what for
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But sometimes someone says "But my tulpas don't know about the outside world, only wonderland" or "But my NPCs know about the outside world and aren't tulpas"
11:46 PM
So it's not a rule
11:47 PM
But, it would be helpful for making the distinctions
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ok thx
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uh im kinda embarassed i have to ask this
3:29 AM
but is it weird that my tulpa has to sometimes tell me to stop talking because we both know im about to say smth bad bc by the time I know i aalready hit send/said it
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Well first of all, plenty of people do things that some part of them feels they shouldn't, generally because they're acting more on other feelings/wants/emotions than their "conscience"
3:30 AM
But second, tulpas also tend to have a different perspective on things than their host
3:30 AM
So they could just actually feel differently about the same things
3:31 AM
Which would lead to different reactions than you yourself would have
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20 minutes ago i made the mistake of calling it keeping me in check
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Reisen
Which would lead to different reactions than you yourself would have
ye but she explains and i usually agre
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Of course, all humans have different perspectives but come to agreements all the time.
3:32 AM
And it could still be the first thing I said.
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gabyesola
20 minutes ago i made the mistake of calling it keeping me in check
im sure the first thing that comes to your mind when i say she keeps me in check is smth i cant say here (edited)
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Reisen
And it could still be the first thing I said.
you right
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So, you can learn to listen to your "conscience"/voice-in-your-head (which is less confusing when not in a tulpamancy server lol) better (edited)
3:33 AM
Some might even call it self-control/mental-discipline, lol
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i feel like she is my conscience enbodied sometimes but also not
3:34 AM
ik shes a diffrent person
3:34 AM
but she feels like meh
3:34 AM
im pretty sure thats normal
3:35 AM
for the first ones anyway
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gabyesola
im sure the first thing that comes to your mind when i say she keeps me in check is smth i cant say here (edited)
berockly (TTG) 6/28/2023 3:48 AM
:leash:
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yep..
3:50 AM
gtg
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can tulpa be considered demons
10:52 PM
a nd if so how do you resist an exorsism
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in what sense, can religious people see them as such, are we genuinely evil beings from hell, what do you mean by that?
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asking for the future
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gabyesola
can tulpa be considered demons
KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 6/29/2023 10:55 PM
anything can be considered anything
10:55 PM
sometimes the question is “but why?”
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Since they are mental constructs and not spirits there's nothing to worry about
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a nd if so how do you resist an exorsism
@gabyesola - jump I'll just answer both since you didn't clarify no, we aren't spooky creatures from the depths of hell, we're just personalities that coexist in the brain. some people may see us as demons since plurality is both understudied and hard to grasp, but recognizing that your headmates aren't gonna be affected by prayer and holy water or whatever form of exorcism is how you would resist that.
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phew
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had this question for a while
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 6/29/2023 10:58 PM
aaaare you sure you are 30
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im 16
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i said it as an expample
10:59 PM
that when im 30 they cant do shit
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ah, fair really, not any external factors are gonna get rid of you, it's gonna be all factors inside of your head
11:00 PM
you're only in the head the same way gaby is
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Hi! What mentality should we have to be able to achieve full possession easier? Like, what should we expect it to be? We don't want to have false hopes and all
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 6/29/2023 11:46 PM
what is your current mentality about it and what do you expect it to be? (edited)
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Like I (the bost) being able to sit in the passenger sit for once while my tulpa makes the primary thinking and controlling of the body. So, basically, the roles changing
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 6/29/2023 11:50 PM
sounds more like a switch but it’s just a label
11:50 PM
it definitely is a reasonable expectation
11:51 PM
it is possible to do, yeah
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Oh, good to know ^^
11:55 PM
But...should I change something?
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No, that seems fine
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 6/29/2023 11:56 PM
it’s all good
11:56 PM
not sure why you doubted yourself
11:56 PM
it’s a perfectly reasonable expectation (edited)
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Sorry, I just wanted to make sure this was ok Thanks ❤️
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Honestly saying that is false at times bc ppl can make fake personalities of themselves but those aren't tulpas just a person pretending to act differently Tulpas are mental constructs (edited)
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Reply to: > a nd if so how do you resist an exorsism @gabyesola - jump I'll …
12:59 AM
or well false a lot of the time
1:00 AM
Bc plurality
1:00 AM
Personalities are just a person giving themselves a different personality not it being a separate mental construct
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Honestly saying that is false at times bc ppl can make fake personalities of themselves but those aren't tulpas just a person pretending to act differently Tulpas are mental constructs
@Khaos - jump well, whats a thoughtform besides a sentient personality? (except in the case of servitors but i forgot if they fall under the thoughtform umbrella) poor, but not incorrect word choice
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Lilith (TTG) BOT 6/30/2023 2:11 AM
Define mental construct! @Khaos
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Khaos ↩️
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2:12 AM
going by only the name, a personality mask (is what ill call it because i think labels are fun to throw around) would definitely make it there as a mental construcg
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Yeah especially considering servitors and inanimate mental constructs
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